So let's get this straight. 1. Worship of images is not idolatry, it is the free market that is the true idolatry, and 2. National central banks have been ineffective at managing the current debt crisis so things would be improved if we consolidated this power into a Central World Bank!!!???
The Vatican called on Monday for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises.
The document from the Vatican’s Justice and Peace department should please the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstrators and similar movements around the world who have protested against the economic downturn.
“Towards Reforming the International Financial and Monetary Systems in the Context of a Global Public Authority,” was at times very specific, calling, for example, for taxation measures on financial transactions. “The economic and financial crisis which the world is going through calls everyone, individuals and peoples, to examine in depth the principles and the cultural and moral values at the basis of social coexistence,” it said.
It condemned what it called “the idolatry of the market” as well as a “neo-liberal thinking” that it said looked exclusively at technical solutions to economic problems. “In fact, the crisis has revealed behaviours like selfishness, collective greed and hoarding of goods on a great scale,” it said, adding that world economics needed an “ethic of solidarity” among rich and poor nations.
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Great idea, while we are at it, let's make me world king.
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great idea there Mr Popey-boy. Let's race back to the dark ages with syphlitic priests, indulgences, pederasty, corruption at the highest levels, the Vatican Church scandals, black death, crusades, the Borgias, did I leave anything out?
Vatican have been banker's slave long ago.
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Spooky!
2 OZ.
One World Government, One World Religion!
Just remember, the Catholic church wants social justice. For those that don't know, social justice is a euphemism for socialism. What better way to make that come about than a world bank and a world authority.
Ordinary Joe
Looks like the "fish hats" are getting impatient to take their seat of power in world domination.
One ring to rule them all.
These pedophiles reveal the true purpose of the catholic church = CONTROL.
Again. ONLY stupid people listen to people who wear robes 24/7.
Religion. It's for stupid people.
You have it backwards. The Vatican owns the banks. They are not slaves to the banks.
And, this report was published in the Rothschild-owned, MSM propoganda source, Reuters. Why, of course.
....and Jesus said let there be debt, and let them pay a price for their debt. He shall not fear usury but embrace it like his own brother.
Looks like silver doctors readers don't believe that much in the catholic church, LOL. The awakening starts here.
I'm curious how much gold the vatican owns. When the government turns on the church to take here wealth, they are going to be hurting big time.
The Vatican called on 27.February 2012 for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises.
FED was created on December 23, 1913 ..... largely in response to a series of financial panics, particularly a severe panic in 1907.
HA - HA - HA
Food for thought:
"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXVII, p. 218, "Cities Petrus Bertanous".
Talking of the pope ……"all must be subject to Him Who has had all things put under Him." -Evangelical Christendom, January 1, 1895, pg. 15, published in London by J. S. Phillips.
"The Pope's authority is unlimited, incalculable; it can strike, as Innocent III says, wherever sin is; it can punish every one; it allows no appeal and is itself Sovereign Caprice Ignaz von Dollinger, "A Letter Addressed to the Archbishop of Munich" 1871; as quoted in MacDougall, The Acton Newman Relations (Fordham University Press) pp. 119,120.
"Fear, then, our wrath and the thunders of our vengeance; for Jesus Christ has appointed us [the popes] with his own mouth absolute judges of all men; and kings themselves are submitted to our authority." Pope Nicholas I (858-867 AD)
"The Jesuits are a MILITARY organization not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is POWER. Power in its most despotic exercise. Absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms,; and at the same time the greatest and the most enormous of abuses." (Memorial of the Captivity of Napoleaon at St. Helena, by General Montholon)
Throw in the death penalty (without trial) for Pedophiles (or fraud over $1M) and I'm all in.
The Lord once said, "My Kingdom is not of this world.."
Someone should send the pope a memo.
-conax
Dear Catholic followers of Jesus Christ,
Do you honestly believe that Jesus Christ would have us be ruled by the money changers that he kicked out of the Temple? The only time he showed disrespect for anyone?
Please understand that your savior would have nothing of this sort for his world of free agency and choice, and this should be known to a true believer through the Holy Spirit.
There is a religion who worships Christ in a home state where pm's have been legalized as currency.
This decree suggests that you could profit in blessings by learning more about that religion.
I guess many would not know that would be The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
Having seven wives sounds very appealing.
However, having seven mother-in-laws does not.
(I know, they gave up polygamy years ago...)
The poop... errr pope ,,,, sorry... is full of shit.. I do not mean to make my brothers in silver investing who are Catholic mad, but the Catholic church is dead wrong.
If I recall correctly, I am sure I recently read an document which stated the Vatican will no longer be exempt from paying tax.
The yearly tax estimate was $600M
This definately could be motivation to change the system
Institutional religion is one of the oldest forms of social control known to man. Maybe the pope is aware that religious control is losing it's grip on the masses as well. Gotta protect his market!
Baah! Baah!
Crazy Canuck
So the Vatican is calling for the twins beasts of world government and centralized global banking monopoly.
Yes, consolidation of government and centralization of fiat banking monopoly have proven themselves so successful for Europe and elsewhere moving toward a direction of more honesty, opennes, transparency, justness, and more freedom - NOT! Such movement to consolidate and monopolice power have proven utterly catastrophic to mankind both economically and in human terms over the past century.
As a result, the Vatican wants to continue the same utterly destuctive pathways only upping the risk to the tenth power and see just how much greater devestation can be wrought upon the world.
Sounds as "the time is near..." Antichrist comming! The western world is skewed and their powers are wicked so this doesn't supprise me.
Nothing like ensuring that banking remains a closed system, pure zionist banking nirvana. How many Catholics in the world to support a one world debt slavery system promoted by their Pope.
Talk about being Donald Ducked! or should I say Oh My Dog! or did I just spell God backwards?
Hey, I thought this was a silver forum.
I should point out....Nowhere in the post do they mention the shmope!
only the Vatican’s Justice and Peace department.
Let's move on to something pertinent to the forum.
Crazy Canuck
PS The less hope people have the more they seek for someone else to give it to them.
It would seem that many of us are no strangers to understanding evil, who can read with an open & questioning mind.
We all know its out there trying to take control of our lives and turn us into debt slaves, or ultimately torture, maim and murder us as mankind does to our declared "inferiors & enemies".
Institutions such as this church are clearly failing to protect us from evil, and/or apparently trying to mislead us.
This seems to threaten our beliefs (as above) on the equal and opposite side of good. If there is no religion which is seen as good, as seems suggested above, where is the good we all support and agree on? What or who's side are we on, if not that of evil, and not including selfishness and greed?
From those of you who do not support beliefs in a higher power of good, what anti-evil do you believe in that we can agree on?
Please don't respond with every man for himself, if he can afford to do it, because that is how we got into this mess of 1% of the people with 80% of the wealth. This is why we are all goin down.
anon 1:34 is right on in this one. the vatican created this modern banking system forcibly compelling jews (who had no prohibitions on usury) to become that banker, then using the latter as a buffer for resentment toward them, i.e. their diversionary tactic was to focus on the bankers whenever the shit was hitting the fan and to blame the jews. this bias was instilled in many catholics and others throughout christendom at an early age and made the convenient scapegoating of an entire people based on those the vatican picked for the task.
the vatican is much higher up that totem pole that the rockefellers and rothschilds, warburgs, kuhns, loebs, etc. this statement (as have others they've made in the past) help us realize that these crises are being created to setup a global govt, banking system, religion, etc run by the vatican. especially when one looks at the activities of the anglicans, orthodox churches, and the vatican in the holy lands in the past 10 years or so....something is afoot. we likely know the gist of what it is.
anon 5:03...check out Too Long in the Sun
It documents how satan has mixed sun worship with every world religion- so essentially the entire human race is practicing pagan customs and celebrations related to sun worship- which is ultimately giving glory to satan. I was shocked to learn that this includes most of Christianity and Catholicism. The truth can still be found, and is easy to follow once you uncover the matrix and seek the truth rather the lies you have been taught all your life.
The synagogue of Satan has been established in the Catholic Church:
http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/benedict_bertie.jpg
(Pope + Rothschild)
Mammoth,
To reiterate what you said earlier. "You kill me. LOL. Seven wives I cannot do.
2 OZ.
i agree with 2oz. Whoever thinks that 7 wives would be a good thing has never had 1. lol. 7 girlfriends would be bad enough. Not to mention the mother inlaws. lol.
Down to more serious things...the catholic religious system is christian in name only. In actuality, it is merely a continuation of Baal worship- the Pope is the high priest of baal. The holidays, customs, and religious practices (not to mention the Madonna with the baby god) are baal worship merely called another name.
Truely there is nothing new under the sun!
2 OZ.
...unless you were desperately short of manpower in the horse and buggy days,
or-
maybe in heaven!
ps...google origins of Easter, Christmas, lent, as well as Baal/ Tamuz/ Horus/ Apollo/ Astarte/ Madonna/ Easter, Isis/ Ishtar/ Diana/ Aphrodite, etc. then google the ancient historical figure of Nimrod, and his wife/ mother Semiramis.
Best be sitting down when you do.
...."From those of you who do not support beliefs in a higher power of good, what anti-evil do you believe in that we can agree on?"..
!?!-
1st. god don't = good
2nd....he don't even exist.
3rd. wtf is anti-evil?
You want something we can all agree on. Simple. The golden rule. Treat ALL others as you wish to be treated.
Done. Problem solved. No long haired bearded dude sittin on a clowd needed. No jeebus born to a virgin either. No heaven. No hell. IMAGINE. THAT.
Seven wives I COULD do, provided only one of them was mine.
(Sneaky enough to accumulate & hide stacks of Silver, sneaky enough to not get caught!)
Yup. My invisible sky god is better than your inviible sky god. And the sun is an evil satanic sun. Ubetcha.
Ever heard the stories of people brought back from being clinically dead (for 5-30 minutes)? On I Survived... Beyond & Back tv. No they dont all have permanent brain damage, especially if their bodies were kept cold.
Remarkably, in almost all of the stories recounted, they are literally so happy there (to be dead), they literally don't want to come back to Earth. I am not saying everyone will have the same experience when they die either. One follower of Islam claimed to see Satan.
But go on ahead and believe what you wish if you want to, there is no life after death. OK.
Believe as you all wish. "As for me and my house, we will serve the lord." Yeah, I'm sure by some account I do something wrong every day, but at least I have something to believe in. Carry on and keep stacking,
2 OZ.
P.S. What a great site. The differing opinions make it all worth while.
2 OZ.
agree with everything here - hey we are all on the same page! - but I have been wondering lately something semi related to this...just how much was 30 pieces of silver worth 2000 odd years ago - that being the amount Judas received for betraying Jesus? Any idea how much a piece weighed? If each piece weighed 1 oz then Jesus was sold for about $1000 in today's money. Just curious.
Anon 5:36...
Yup, the Golden Rule has been working really good, unless you happen to be a have-not or poor.
Perhaps you dont care about those human beings? That might make it harder to believe in a power of higher good.
Check out George Carlin 'religion is bullshit' on YouTube .it sums all this religion nonsense up.'God,the all powerful,all seeing creator of all the planets and master and creator of the universe.But he needs MONEY!!! .He can do all this but he just can't handle money,he always needs a little bit more'
Ha Ha , that applies to ALL religions not just Catholisism .
Forget the middle ages nonsense and get real.There is no God ,never has been ,never will be, not now not ever ,he doesn't exist.
Great site Doc,keep it up.
Well, all said, some believe and some don't. The way of the world. as you wish.
2 OZ.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2009/jul/09070812
Nice try doc...stick to PMs!
We Catholics don't worship statues by the way.
wowsers! let me fix it for ya... "Yup, RELIGION has been working really good, unless you happen to be a have-not or poor."
You speak of a higher good I assume you mean god. The all powerful and all good god? who has done nothing for the poor?
Get on ur knees and pray that there be no more "have nots" or poor. Ur dude is all powerful and all good so why don't he listen? Snap his godly fingers and put a hot meal in every starving fools hands?
Because he don't care about human beings?
he don't listen?
or
HE DON'T EXIST.
In other news, that dude you listen to that only wears fancy bathrobes just called.... Back on ur knees! ur lord DEMANDS worship!
Mr. Pope Sir, we did that already. It was called the Crusades, and we also had The Dark Ages with the Inquisition, and in recent history we have had a time with priests liking little boys in an UNGODLY WAY. Suppose you handle all the claims by the victims who suffered at the hands of evil men employed by The Holy Roman Catholic Church? Also,suppose you sell the vast wealth/assets you own, and give it to the poor as Jesus asked us to do?
The money changers always show their hand.
anon 7:04, what makes you believe that it has only been in recent times that priests liking little boys in an UNGODLY WAY?
It has ALWAYS been like this in the Catholic Church! It is only in recent times that this has finally become general public knowledge.
By the way, this view is held by more than the leadership of the Catholic Church, as all faiths seem to be players in an already written play. There is nothing new under the Sun.
A TRAIL OF BREADCRUMBS
Paul Volcker, Obama's advisor on the Financial Crisis, left the White House in January of 2011. He was replaced by Jeffrey Immelt of G.E. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/business/economy/22immelt.html
Volcker, 83, didn't totter off to retirement, no. His resignation broke on Jan 21st. And where was he a few days later? At the Palais Royal Initiative meeting in a Parisian Palce http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palais-Royal
Nice digs. What was the purpose of meeting there?
The complete paper is linked to in Bancor Part 1. Essentially, the new system of a supranational bank.
Isn't that what the Vatican just called for?
Yeah. Strange coincidence, huh? Until you note that the Palais Royal Initiative was convened by Michel Camdessus the former head of the IMF and former Governor of the French Central Bank. Note-- the P-R-I group is all "former officials" which means no government can be held accountable for what they discussed. But what is the connection between Camdessus and the Vatican? Well, he's an advisor to the very Vatican department that issued the paper.
http://www.omearaferguson.com/in-house-news/expert-encourages-culture-of-global-solidarity-in-response-to-financial-crisis/
well ofcourse the main demon(pope) called for that....he is the head honcho for santan..why should anyone be surprised!
((((HUGE face palm))) Pope = FAIL !
Don't be too quick to believe what the "mainstream" (secular) media says...
http://www.brutallyhonest.org/brutally_honest/2011/10/is-the-vatican-really-calling-for-a-central-world-bank.html
The German Shepard Ratzenbeger hath spoken!
Ever heard the term "deep Storage." If my Priest asked for some of my silver I would gladly turn it over.Every Catholic I know would.Guarantee the Church has plenty of gold and can get much more if they need it. Chew on that a while.
I am not religious and I do not go to church but if you don't believe there is a Divine or Higher Power, then you either have not lived long enough, have not experienced enough and most definately have not spent enough time alone in silence.
One day it will be realized by the many that we all believe, or should believe, in One God. The worshipped Gods are not different in any way and niether are we. We are ALL ONE!
It would pay to keep an open mind on such matters. Just sayin'.
P.S. The Pope sucks along with his satanic symbolism and rituals and his peadophillic Church.
Well, at least I have MY aluminum foil hat to protect me.
Some of you may DOOMED, DOOMED I say, without one!
No surprises here.. really. Church has always been in bed with kings - that has not changed. People must believe in themselves 1st and foremost and those around them 2nd, NOT some self-proclaimed authority figure who's always after power of control over many (except their own ill-born ambitions). Vatican is showing its true colors.. that should awake some sleepers. Good sign of things to come. Evil men always wrap themselves in cloaks of benevolence, but time comes when they must reveal themselves and it is happening now. Time to push back and put'em back where they belong.
No sabia que los silverdoctors eran anti todo: anti catolicos, anti lógicos, anti sensatos, anti personas... creía que hablaban de plata.
¡Que sorpresa! Se descubren a si mismos...
PENSABA QUE ESTE ERA UN FORO DE PLATA...
WWJD
BTW, the Vatican made the same call last October:
http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f4/vatican-call-global-financial-authority-73/
Isn't this the same church that is predicated on the idea of the messiah Jesus Christ rising to heaven? The same Jesus Christ who himself threw the money changers out of the temple. This is the mother of all historical ironies right now cos from where Im sitting it looks like Jesus' message is standing in direct opposition to the edict just thrown down by this same said church. That in my mind looks like the forces of evil are laughing there faces off and no longer care abotu keeping things under the covers any longer. Armagaeddon bitchez. Who are you with?
Interesting posts here. Some conceptions of God is meant to be good so why is he bad. Thats a pretty basic presumption. What is good and bad in the greater game of evolution? Maybe evolution and God exist and God - something all seeing all knowing that includes us knows that for a human to be "free" there needs to be freedom to choose between good or bad every day in myriad ways so that we can evolve in a free way to where we want.
This is a quote from a newspaper article. You can 'google' up same info for yourself.
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Quote:[The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. The pope, as the visible ruler of this immense amassment of wealth, is consequently the richest individual of the twentieth century. No one can realistically assess how much he is worth in terms of billions of dollars.]
Should someone who is the head of the most wealthy organization on the planet,takes form the poor and hoards the wealth while people on the globe starve be giving advice ? ?
"Power corrupts, and absolute power, corrupts absolutely"!
actually, "power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely" (Lord Acton, I believe)
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