*UPDATED
If you happen to need to take a trip to an NYC ER room tonight and experience an extraordinarily long wait, The Doc's about to explain why. Silver has put in a monster rally this week, and much to the cartel's dismay, was preparing to close the week above $35.50 today, preparing a break-out next week that could potentially fill the gap from the September smash to $40, and see silver off to the races back to challenge the all-time nominal highs near $50. Obviously, the cartel stepped in with a massive paper raid to prevent such a bullish weekly close.
That's where things got interesting and likely induced more than a few Myocardial Infarctions today among JPMorgan execs.
Notice the massive volume that began at approximately 14:47, with 4,000 paper contracts dumped on the market in a single minute, followed by 2,500, 1,800, 3,200, 3,000, 2,900, and 3,100 over the next 6 minutes.
Have a look for yourself:
That's 20,500 paper silver contracts or 102,500,000 ounces of paper silver suddenly dumped on the market in a span of 7 minutes!
Now here's where the collective Myocardial Infarction comes in among JPM execs:
After dumping 102.5 million ounces of paper shorts on silver in 7 minutes, silver fails to collapse into a waterfall decline, and STAGES AN OUTSIDE REVERSAL TO CLOSE THE GLOBEX SESSION BACK ABOVE $35.50!!!
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| Blythe's View Friday Night |
*Update: Please understand that in order to observe this blatant manipulation attempt on your own trading platform, you need to be using a 1 minute chart, showing volume as well as price candlesticks, not just a simple price chart like kitco. (For those wishing for an explanation of candlestick charts, BrotherJohn did an excellent job last night here discussing the cartel epic fail)
The reason this 102.5 million ounce paper raid will not appear on a simple price chart is the fact that the raid failed! Someone (likely Asians) had a paper buy algo IN POSITION FOR THIS RAID, and instantly took the other side of the cartel's massive paper dump, preventing a waterfall sell-off and causing violent and unprecedented inter-minute price swings as the battle took place. After the cartel had expended 102.5 million paper ounces of silver unsuccessfully, the large buyer then bid silver back up to near the day's highs as the paper selling onslaught subsided.
Rather than debating whether or not this event actually occurred (it did), you should be focusing on WHO was the other party that prevented this raid from collapsing the price of silver, and WHY they were ready and willing to take the other side of a cartel dump of paper silver equal to the volume of 15% of annual world supply, or 3 years of US annual supply over the span of 7 minutes!
*UPDATE #2
With reports swirling around the web early in the week that the CFTC had contacted NetDania regarding this matter, 4 days after our inquiry, we have finally received a response from NetDania regarding the apparent failed cartel raid.
Click here for Net Dania's response to our inquiry
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cnbc said today that the bernanke will appear before congress next wednesday.
It's getting to a point where just the thought of him speaking makes the markets move :-)
Crazy Canuck
PS I don't watch CNBC. just happened to surf by.
Nice work Doc. Have a great weekend Blythe! I got silver 37.50 next week and touching 40 THE WEEK AFTER.
Sweet! All I can say is "it don't get any better than this". Thank you DOC for the big purchase, thank you Sprott for you extremely large delivery and thank all of you individuals for your weekly excursions to the local dealers.
Have you some "O" DAT JP and friends.
It's not over yet but we're making headway all.
Hear that Keiser? Jump on the wagon and make a big purchase yourself. Crash JP Morgan.
2 OZ.
My bars from last friday are on their way!
P.S. Thanks for the snapshot Conax.
2 OZ.
Margin call from the Silver Liberation Army!
Humm, someone bought those contracts!!!
Are we winning?
Great to see it! :) Thanks!
Nice bit of expose DOC
I can't help but thinking though, Maybe it's just a ruse by the monkeys to get sheople to think JPN et al are losing control. There are alot of fund managers and pension fund managers waiting to jump on the bandwagon when they smell the first drop of blood. Al pacino once said (in a movie)....Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in!
If I was a desperate manipulator, I would grab a chunk of cash, give a bit back, grab another chunk, give a bit back just to make the sheople think they are winning. One of the best ways to defeat your enemy is to LEAD him.
Not to mention the fact that THEY watch us as much as we watch them.
All that being said......I haven't got a clue what I'm talkin about, it's just the way my brain works :-)
Crazy Canuck
Time to load up the next weapon of choice: Silver Margin Hike
It worked great back in April - May 2011 so they must be hoping it works again. The problem is they are creating a drug resistant strain to their usual tactics. Its a lot of strong hands out there holding the silver than in Spring 2011.
It would be nice to know who sold the contracts and who bought them.
crazy Canuck
You are right on Crazy, but the drops are getting shorter. They still have the power to drop the paper price significantly but I think it will be short lived. A downgrade due to default in Greece (even though it won't be called a default) will cause a little more flight to PM.s and US Treasuries. I think, and hopefully I'm correct, the world is opening their eyes and the Cartel may have less days alive than they think. Unfortunately, as the price of silver rises, the worse shape the world will be in. I'm just thankful I've had the opportunity to read the posts on the DOC's site as well as others. I've had a little more time to prepare than the average Joe. No offense Ordinary Joe.
2 OZ.
I think that was the silver that Spain just claimed dumped back into the market!
who would be going long contracts after MF Global scam. Did Sprott go to miners directly, wouldn't India, China anyone bypass the Crimex.
Who would seriously use the Crimex for longs, shorts anything???
so if they are dumping 100million oz, then who is picking up the orders? who has balls big enough to buy 100m oz of commex fake silver?
is it possible that they (or indirectly via their friends) do the longs and shorts togeter?
Guys, THAT WAS the raid you all were looking for. JPM must be shitting bricks this weekend. Silver to near $40 by next Friday!
Whoa, talk about shooting blanks. The OI must have jumped a nice notch or two today :)
Heck, it could be algoes of two or more banks, passing the stick back and forth, each time a hair cheaper, driving prices lower while costing them nothing. Nobody holds any party to the deal, capisce? That said, I have never seen so much red without the blue being present, the paper was snapped right up. Then it stopped. This is weird.
;)
I don't think silver margin hikes work as well, the surprise is out the bottle, the market has learned of this margin hikes. I think it will have little effect since the last three 30% take downs, they have to come up with something new. Newer than MF global and Osama. Not sure, but I know they are creative creatures.
-Hotsaucze
we need to understand who is buying, who is supplying physical to the Crimex (if anyone). Seems the miners and venture capital should form a marketplace for spot at different places in the world, never made sense to me why the miners give it away.
Doc, confused about a couple things. 1) Silver never saw a close above 35.50 today on my charts. 2) How do you know if these were valid orders that they were orchestrated by a group of banks? 3) Is it possible they dumped and subsequently covered a few minutes later?
James Turk has said - repeatedly - that he expects silver to double within two months once it breaks the $35-mark. I am looking forward to seeing what happens - silver and gold prices showing concern on global stage.
2oz.
None taken. I picked Ordinary Joe as a handle in order to be distinguished from the average Joe. SMILE. You can call me anything you want, except late for dinner!
Ordinary Joe
I had my taxes done the other day.
The tax guy/financial adviser commented on my GLD/SLV etf's sale.
He doesn't know that I sold some of it to buy phyzz though.
Gotta keep some things to yourself.
He then commented that he's looking into buying - etf's - for himself and some of his clients.
I asked him how he couldn't have seen what's been going on in the pm world for years.
He just didn't know....as in oblivious.
I mentioned phyzz and I got a look.
He didn't know how to buy it.
I gave him two websites to look into.
He's a nice enough guy.
But the whole thing was amazing.
Sheep---baaaaaaaaaaa all the way to the day that all their paper wealth goes to ZERO!
Epic f ing day with your headlines Doc. The inevitable is now happening. Does this mean the common fear of the big bad cartels won't be so prevalent? I sure as hell hope so.
T
These comments are too funny! I cashed out my IRA last year and bought phyzz and when I confessed to my accountant he didn't know what I was talking about and then I just shut up.....he doesnt' get it at all.
"Blythes view Friday night..."
Lmao Doc! Hopefully their Myocardial Infarctions
are terminal. ;-)
Let's not get overly optimistic here people. These bastards are cunning....they will lie, steal, cheat and sell their grandma to the devil to get what they want. We are being baited here. Don't make any sudden moves just yet....they are waiting for the right moment to come in for the kill. Dimon won't lose one penny on his watch, just remember that. Every open short will be covered at a profit, NOT a loss. And you can bet on that. ;-) Our buying opportunity of a lifetime is coming in due time.
http://i42.tinypic.com/6rhrow.png
i made that if you wanna put a real pic up of the raid instead of a monitor screenshot
- runlevel
This is where you need to go to see NON-CRIMEX pricing of silver, the producer
http://www.store.firstmajestic.com/
These guys run their own pricing algo based on phyz supply and demand, not paper
thanks DG
Thanks Runlevel! Added your screen shot.
I can't see any of these trades on my Thinkorswim futures chart. I'm pretty sure that the chart displayed is wrong.
Here's a screenshot of my futures account chart for silver over that time period. Max volume on any tick is around 400 contracts:
http://i39.tinypic.com/5d2w6v.jpg
Thanks Doc. I feel I have been waiting my whole life for this (it's only been 2 years actually, but I like the drama). In the words of our dear Mogambo Guru, 'Wheeee, this investing stuff is easy'.
first majestic is great. i used their site to place an order last summer. great prices and the delivery was $5 (delivered to their office in vancouver). pretty bars - very well done.
This volume isn't on ThinkOrSwim... who uses NetDania? Their platform is a joke...
"never made sense to me why the miners give it away."
Me neither. But as long as they are selling for cheap, I am buying! :-)
Who cares who bought the paper. They all wind up in the fail to deliver file anyway.
Long and Strong
Barchart says this is wrong too. http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?sym=SIH12&t=BAR&size=M&v=2&g=1&p=I:5&d=L&qb=1&style=technical&template=
That IS one hell of an amazing chart! HOLY COW! If it wasn't a 'fake out' as 'Crazy C' speculated, then it was Waterloo, except that the pidgeon ended up as some hawk's lunch!
maybe you geniuses who don't see this action on your platforms should try pulling up a 1 minute chart rather than a 10 min or 1 hour chart instead of acting like the doc fabricated the above charts. lol
Hope all those paper shorts stand for delivery,God bless them who ever they were,and I would certainly like to thank the banksters out there for giving me enough plastic to buy 8 100 oz. silver bars,picking up 200 oz. next week when more plastic arrives,again thankyou banksters,would not have been possible without your help,hope I live long enough to piss on Dimon and Blythes grave.
I am laughing my ass off at the pain JPM is in.
I bought 500 plus ounces between the $27-$35 silver price here recently. I have $9,000 waiting for hopefully another takedown to lower $30's...but it may not happen ever again. Oh well, I buy regardless of price. Once the physical silver runs out, it will go to the thousands per ounce, some even say $10,000 plus in 20 years. But a gallon of gas will be $20 at that time also.
Let Your Life Be a Friction to Stop the Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2Xh5eN2fXY
Most important video you will EVER watc
where can I view a detailed chart like this online with the contracts? its hard to distinguish the volume for a beginner. thanks
Meh...I'd bet silver closer to $30 than 40 this time next week....
but the silver noobs are nice comic relief...
Doc, maybe we are finally seeing the disconnect between physical and paper silver,what do you think?
Out of town for 6 days and all hell breaks lose. Jeez!
Well, for my money, this might have been a well orchestrated head fake, maybe some desperation move, maybe something to keep us guessing. I jsut don't know. These are smart SOBs but they don't know everything. And I reckon that the collective intelligence in the silver community is overpowering and maybe overpowering to the cartel. This might be a last sign of desperation. But why would these people want us to load up at $35 an oz. We extract more and more silver from the marketplace making delivery more and more difficult.
I wore the asshat for a day when I guessed silver would go to $30 or less at the end of the week, about 3 weeks ago. Mammoth saved me from permanent asshattedness when Buffett opened his piehole with the nonesensical BS about gold.
So I went all in at $33 and $34 and oz-- Happy that I did. Now the guess will be what is lurking around the corner.
The more we chip and hack away at this paper marketplace, extracting millions of ounces, with Sprott and his major buys, the less wiggle room the cartel has. It seems like the 20,000 contracts was almost all that was out there. But my eye did catch the other post of the short contract loading up so maybe this was not that much in paper after all
Well, as they say. Lather, Rinse and repeat
i got the chart to work but im just curious how much silver is in a contract..
very bullish
-hotsaucze
I think the buying opportunity of a life time was when silver just recently dipped to 26 a few weeks ago.. This is great news They will try a few margin hikes and then if that fails they'll try another paper dump I bet. I'm pretty sure another partnered bank buys the contracts obviously..
ann 11;11
I believe it is 5000 oz per contract
Crazy Canuck
anon 11:11, Crazy Canuck is correct, 5,000 oz/ contract. 20,500 paper contracts over 7 minutes at 5,000oz/ contract= 102.5 million paper ounces of silver sold in 7 minutes. Put another way, roughly 3 years of total annual US silver mine supply. That's the definition of the tail wagging the dog.
In this market...Nothing suprises me anymore.
I'm sitting on a big bag of "junk" and 540 oz of 9999 with an average price just under $32 per oz, so I'm happy with my performance thus far.
Scooped up a couple oz of Au as well just for shits and giggles.
I'm ultra long on my PMs so the volatility don't mean shit to me.
Now I just try to time it and learn for fun using imaginary money. As more fiat rolls in I'll grab some more phyzz...or maybe some mountain house grub....or some 3 inch shells....or maybe a generator and some water barrels. Maybe somethin nice for the wife. Who knows. I love this apocomeltdown stuff. It's like being a boyscout again...without the geeky badges.
Crazy Canuck
this site is the home of a mass amount of future millionaires
'this site is the home of a mass amount of future millionaires'
-You mean billionaires! Don't know about you, but im stacking some serious phyzz!
I'm long and strong and holding on It's all good.
Check out http://www.brotherjohnf.com/ new update!
going to invest in body bags for the amount required for the parisites shorting silver.
Personally, I'm holding out for a raid. One just has to look at the COT numbers. So the banks double their shorts in anticipation of price rising?? Then there's the lease rate that also points to a raid.
There is another possibility - that the banks really are losing the ability to control price and all these additional shorts are just not having the effect that they once did.
I don't know, but I'm def. waiting to see how next week plays out before my next purchase.
- Silverstax
I pretty much use the Kitco Silver chart to track silver during the day, and I'm having trouble matching up the peaks and valleys of the Feb. 24 Kitco silver chart's green line with those shown on the Netdania chart above. And what is 14:59 MST? Mountain Standard time? I need help finding the time of the 7-minute dump.
Bobo
Oh yeah, the Bernank is speaking too. Tell me if anyone else out there has ever had their hand on the phone ready to call the coin shop while watching the Bernank speak?? That guy can add or shave a couple of hundred bucks off your purchase easily!
- Silverstax
that WAS the raid Silverstax! But somebody met the raid with massive buy orders...likely an Asian algo.
Bobo...kitco doesnt show 1 minute charts. you need a 1 minute chart to see it properly.
14:59 EST
Shit I just realized how small my stack is compared to what I've heard some are sittin on.
I'm a small time rookie ass bitch :-)
Crazy canuck
The cartel got stuffed!! The big question who is on the other side?
help me out here people I was checking out silver doctors like I do 20 times a day. and I checked out the link posted by anon 12;38 above and somehow I got sidetracked to SGT, then decided to listen to bix wier where I got sidetracked over to this benjamin mulford dude. from there i ended up at some eclinic site where theres a bunch of freaks talking about time travel, lizard people and all kinds of crazy shit about a the dark cabal and the white hats. Who are these people. I'm just trying to stack some silver and prepare for a collapse of some sort, but are these people for real or what?
Crazy Canuck
if nothing else it's entertaining
this interweb thing sure is a portal for the strange and bizzare
Crazy C
Sorry....it was benjamin Fulford that I ended up at from bix wier link....crazy dude man
crazy canuck
Not sure where the numbers are coming from here .. The charts are not showing this .. And spot silver is not traded on Comex... Talking to other experts they confirm that all this is incorrect.. And no I am not a troll.. Please look at the numbers more carefully
Damn Crazy C. If your a rookie with these guys, I'm not even out of grade school yet. I've yet to achieve rookie status. My poor ole' tiny stack will make me a thousand air instead of a million air. LOL. Working on it though.
Oooops! Working on it though.
2 OZ.
Just listened to Bro J at SGT. He's featured the DOC's site regarding the attempted smack-down. Way to go DOC.
2 OZ.
Dear Doc
This the sign I think we've all been waiting for. The beginning of the end for the crooked cartel.
Nice job spotting it.
Guys remember, this is happening without small specs in comex. They have been scared off by those margin calls and mfglobal. China is doing this because of the bullshit with Iran.
Next week will be interesting. What the hell is this??? Are they planning on something?
I don’t know if anyone else noticed, but at about the same time as the Friday ’102.5 Million Ounces of Paper Silver in 7 Minutes’ the US Mint suspended sales for 2011 Silver Eagles temporarily. As of this post, they are still not available. (Price was $45.95)
From the US Mint:
2011 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin (1P6)
This product is temporarily unavailable for product repricing.
https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&categoryId=13738&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=10191&top_category=10191
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Funny thing today, NO NAYSAYERS of the conspiracy by the man to keep silver down.
Guess this was evidence enough for you
Dummy
Where is this traded? I can't find any comfirmation of these trades,it sure isn't reflected in any of the futures markets like the Crimex!
Makes for fun reading; Can't even begin to guess what is next or what any of it means. Plan is to pick up 4 more, just like I've been doing......and encourage all to keep stackin'
4oz
Right there with ya 4 OZ. I'll pick up my usual 2 OZ. plus a little more if the price is right. Got a great deal on 6 ASE's and a Kennedy 1/2 last week ($60.00). Can't go wrong there.
If what ANON 7:31 says is true, they must be expecting a further run up in the price.
Stack on,
2 OZ.
it is for us in Europe begins
He comes to the drug crisis, the unprecedented number of prints per
The European Central Bank (ECB) intends next week, specifically Wednesday when is February once every four years a day longer to pump up the European financial system, breathtaking sum of money. It should be at least in the order of hundreds of billions of euros. Analysts polled by news first may be even up to a trillion euros (about 25 billion dollars).
WOW! Is it true!?! Am i awake?
Silver is the short, diriv a must buy to keep the game going. sheeple tears on the way,
This is easily explained. Several mining companies, within a span of a few mintues, simultaneously decided to hedge about 15% of annual world production. What, you guys think these contracts had no intent on delivering physical silver and were done solely to either cap the price rise and/or cause a waterfall decline?
But wouldn't that mean this flurry of contracts was sold with the sole intent of manipulating the price? But that's illegal! Somebody call the CFTC! Better yet, keep stacking.
what a bunch of bull. You guys and brother john just shot your cred to hell.
#1. that was a spot net dania chart. Spot does not trade on the comes
#2. None of that action conveyed into any of the silver futures contracts. Take a look dummies.
#3.None that action conveyed to AGQ or any other silver ETF. If that had happened, those charts would have looked the same except in the case of AGQ, magnified 2X.
You guys give precious metals investors a bad name. Yes there is manipulation and intervention but you need to check your work before you report. A middle schooler would have had the brains to take a second to check a futures daily chart.
I go to live silver prices uk and get live siver updated prices every minute
6:33 is blythe waking up from a long night in the ICU. Even if you are half correct in what you say, which i doubt, im sure the Doc could careless about future trading on a regular day. Its all about phyzzzzz stacking!!
anon 9:33- you're either a troll or an idiot. REad the freaking article, the Doc said on the Globex, not the COMEX.
Kudos to the Doc -- great catch. Time will tell what this means, if anything, but it sure is fascinating to see it on a chart. As for my two cents: perhaps short covering (exchanging shorts for long by the same player) and obviously bullish for a silver bug like me.
Thanks again Doc!
Surely it's something to do with the Spain silver? That's phyzz which is changing hands on the market (not sure from where to where, Spain to the banksters?). So maybe the silver was dumped on the market, and the CARTEL bought it up? So net difference was canceled out.
If a true raid occurs, we will all know without question. It usually involves margin hikes (don't forget the Shanghai shysters), and done to coincide with a drop on the stockmarket. Did they actually raise margins last November, or was it just a rumor? I remember it caused a $3 drop in Ag, which then rebounded. But this coincided with the Supercommittee failure to agree on tax cuts, which caused a stock drop.
But maybe the increase in commercial shorts is just to contain the expected price increase due to the LTRO next week? So maybe a major drop won't happen.
Anon 6:50, suggested China bought up the contracts. I could see that as a reason. If China wants to destroy the manipulators, they certainly have the deep pockets to do so. Very enthusiastic posts, I feel like I'm at an auction -my2cents-
+1
100th comment!
I cant see why china would want to buy a infinite numbers of naked shorts, im sure theyll sell more if they didnt archive what they wanted?? I mean, cant they sell as much as they like? im confused?!?
Thinking today is a good day to hit the LCS and take aways as much silver as I can get my hands on!
@anon 11:09
If it is actually China, it could be positioning itself this way as a victim in many occasions to come. That's the only way they could avoid major scapegoating and, the ultimate war.
Fuck this shit and go fucken ahead and buy some got dam silver everybody.Spread the fucken word out to clueless peaple that we all know...fuck JPM fuck Diamond and fuck Blythe !!!!
Some time ago Andrew McGuire (the JPM whistle blower) said the Asians are on to the bankster paper manipulation. He had very large buyers that will eventually bust the banksters. Maybe they are making the move.
It is important to go up to 80,000' and look at this from a higher level. What the metal heads have wanted for a long time is for longs to step up and buy the dips instead of stepping aside and letting the price do a 'waterfall'.
Also remember, over the last couple of years the corrections have taken less and less consolidation before starting to retrace the fall.
What we may be seeing is a signal to the market that not only will dips be bought ferociously, but they will provide an immediate launch pad for a rally. If that mindset starts to get accepted by the longs, the manipulation gets over run quickly.
It will be interesting to see a large number of Open Interests stand for delivery out of this.
It doesnt matter, the pms will all be confiscated and physical trading/possession criminalized to value their next fiat currency, you can take your certificates at the official exchange, or you can take a bullet, it's up to you
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24 hours later, and the US Mint still has a temporary hold for "repricing" on the 2011 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin (1P6)
As of this post, they are still not available.(Price was $45.95 yesterday morning)
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US Mint:
2011 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin (1P6)
This product is temporarily unavailable for product repricing.
Check here to see for yourself:
https://catalog.usmint.gov/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&categoryId=13738&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=10191&top_category=10191
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Doc,
Some knowledgeable and trusted traders, or at Turds site, seem to think this is baloney. Their areguement is this "net dania is spot silver not futures.
spot silver does not trade on the Comex
Manipulation and intervention occurs in futures not spot.
I dont have anymore memory left in my tf metals account to post a chart and it is not important enough to me to spend an hour learning how to use a photo site. If another futures trader has memory or photo site savy to post a May silver futures please do.
How about just take a look at an AGQ chart. It was trading at the time net dania flipped its wig. That action would have been magnified times 2
I am not a member of the borg. I am simply attempting to keep the hysteria down to a gentle roar and maintain the credibility of the best metals site on the internet."
But, the Netdania was on the Globex right? I viewed the chart, and I do not believe that it is a glitch. The Cartel, had preformed their normal modis opreandi, up 2% on Tuesday, up 1% on Wednesday, flat Thursday and raid on Friday, negative .40 lease rates, holding silver below 35.00, and had put on a ton of shorts. The evidence is there for a raid, and I think that was it!
Please comment!
Thanks
Oh and it was options expry!
Maybe China is spending all the worthless Us dollars they have to buy the paper contracts? In turn it helps fight the manipulation,they dump some dollar holdings and it improvs there metal stockpile. I know I turn in my paper cash every chance I get for silver.
@Crazy Canuck.
"travel, lizard people and all kinds of crazy shit."
It's as real as the phyzzz you hold in your hand.
Beacon
The ND chart anomoly is meaningless.
Most of you posters are dumber than a box of hammers.
Take your get rich quick on silver back to the shitco forums where you belong.
This blog is the slowest on the web. go to the cloud.
Doc,
I only notice this anomaly on netdania. I am not noticing it on other platforms..... Don't you think that this could be a computer glitch? How can it ONLY be on the netdania platform...?? Can you please answer that... also, have you looked at other platforms as well to see the volume during this time frame.... Have you even looked at stock charts and looked at the daily close volume... doesn't add up. Also, netdania does have a habit of going wonkers, look at how it reacts during the close...
Doc,
I see that a lot of other people have posted comments on this silver anomaly crash.... why is it that you have not responded to them.. some have even asked you in a civil manner... Also, why did you not bother to check other ETFs or trading platforms before you pumped this misinformation... You definitely don't need the hits on the website since you are getting them... This does nothing but crash you credibility....
What Iluvpms said. Has anyone checked the 1 minute chart on another platform? Doc please reply. Love your site. Thanks.
Don't get your underwear in a knot! Like the banksters are just going to shoot themselves in the foot and capitulate......yeah right.
You delude yourselves thinking that "we" puny silver stackers are on "their" radar. These people deal in metric tonnes of silver and paper worth hundreds of billions, not rounds and ASE's. Sure, in the long run we *might* make a big enough dent to be a tiny blip on their radar but we are more akin to fleas on fleas. We are looking to protect our own tiny savings while hoping and praying that confiscation does not come to pass. I for one do not want to be a blip on "their" or any ones radar. I just want to transfer what little I have from this side of the crash to whatever comes after the crash. If I happen to get rich in the process, so be it but that is not and should not be our goal.
Some of you root for the coming collapse as if it is a good thing. I can assure you that the riches you are all expecting will definitely arrive but the misery that will accompany it will be intolerable. If silver does go to $400/oz or even achieve parity with gold, what the hell do you think society will look like? We puny stackers will likely spend our new found fortunes just trying to stay alive. What about those not wise or fortunate enough to prepare? Are you just going to kill them? Tens of millions will fail to prepare and suffer immensely. What will you do then?
NetDania did not simply fabricate the above data. I reported what I saw on that netdania chart and the implications to me. If those that do not believe this occurred yesterday would like to send a screen shot from another platform displaying a 1-minute chart with candlesticks, I'll be glad to take a look at it.
12:45 Anon.
Has someone told you to get rich fast with silver?
Paper money supply growing so fast compared to real money, i think its the most safest bet to invest in real money. If you disagree, go buy dollars, euros, stocks or bonds and good luck!
I stack in a smackdown stack in strenght! I love my silver and im not selling it!!!!!!!
Are you sure Doc, netdania show silver futures contracts on comex with volumes for free ?
Not forex silver (Xau/Usd) ?
Why its written "Silver spot" on netdania chart if its futures contract ?
Doc,
No body is saying that nedania fabricated the data... that is not the point of this discussion. The point is that it was a computer glitch and instead of having done some proper research you automatically screamed a failed raid. You automatically assumed the conspiracy point of view and wrote an article on it without looking deeper into the matter? My question to you was why did you not bother checking other sources.... ? Why did you not bother to look at other leveraged ets?
Also, netdania is a spot price and doesn't deal with futures or the comex, so how did you arrive that it was a raid to suppress the price..?
Not buying it. I see a 35.42 to 35.45 move from 14:56-14:59 on Forexpro's. Looks like it should on the 1 min chart.
Please show another screenshot from another feed. Otherwise, this seems like a screwy Netdania feed.
Doc, did you look at AGQ, or SLV, no difference in their volumes during this time frame.... you may want to change your title due to the misinformation you are pumping out. A publicity stunt is what is should be called :)
doc, when you launch the new site, can you please block/ disallow ILUVPMSING? or provide a troll/ignore button?
Why the heck should Doc look at other platforms before reporting something I luv? Those massive volume bars perfectly coinciding with very unusual candles are merely a net dania glitch? Bwahahaha. You're gonna have to do better than that to discredit the doc.
Doc has a dayjob. Maybe you should donate $10k a month ILUVPMSING so he can work full time here and spend more time on research. Im sure he has better things to do than respond to you every 5 minutes when the ILUV troll comes out from under the bridge.
Sorry, make that 35.42 to 35.35.
Proof: http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/barnz008/ScreenShot2012-02-25at125808PM.png
Netdania is a fast automated chart, updating in real time.
Other charts I've watched hardly move in a few minutes, updating sporadically when there is a significant change. Maybe they are moderated by their operators, I wouldn't know.
If you all don't believe Netdania's service is accurate or reliable, that's fine. Don't include it in your analysis. If you think the Doc is deliberately publicity hunting, you should avoid such a website. He's a silver bug, an enthusiast who runs a site for like-minded people to discuss the markets. So yeah, we get excited and have some fun when something breaks out.
To the Experts: Call Eric Sprott and see if he cares to let YOU interview him.
Enjoy your weekend.
And a sreenshot from my netdania iPhone app showing the same 1 min time period and the volume spike.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/barnz008/IMG_0168.png
Conax,
If i chose to run a website that specifically details silver, when in reality i have something in the offing happening, he would interview me. Why because he wants publicity as well.. Just like jim willie and corp.
nice try.
everyone has a day job, i have a day job and do full time school (currently working towards my CA). That doesn't excuse bullshit titles based on preconceived notions.
What are you still doing on here ILuvPMS...not once has anyone appreciated your thoughts. Why don't you contact netdania and ask them whats going on with their charts? Maybe we can get confirmation by next Friday after the morgue has paid these guys off to correct them.
Nobody would come to your website ILUVPMS!!!
ILUVPMS said... 'If i chose to run a website that specifically details silver...Eric Sprott would interview me.' LOL!!!
Thanks ILUV, you just made my day.
ILUVPMS-
"when in reality i have something in the offing happening"
What might that be?
I understand, no one would come because most morons what to hear BS misinformation on supposed raids... ALl like minded individuals hearing the same crap.
speaking of Eric Sprott- Doc just put up a new thread...full transcript of his interview with Sprott. Eric Sprott:The Crisis is Out of Control
Next we'll hear ILUV say that's not really Eric Sprott in the interview Doc's talking to...Doc just made the whole thing up for publicity! haha
The doc, this WAS a 1 min chart:
http://i39.tinypic.com/5d2w6v.jpg
THIS RAID NEVER HAPPENED. Your destroying the credibility of your site. No volume changes in SLV, AGQ, PSLV, SIVR, SLW, you name it.
This is just a bad quote from netdania. Don't take too much from it.
Here are screenshots from my TD Ameritrade app on my iPhone..
1 min - you can see the volume spike at 13:37, not 14:47...nor was it at 13:47 (a difference in time zones)...it was a full 10 minutes off.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/barnz008/IMG_0170.png
3 min for further reference. Notice the volume spike is on a green candle, not red...
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/barnz008/IMG_0170.png
15 minute chart from 8:30 - 4:00 pm day. Notice the largest volume came around 12:30, not during the last 15 min of trading as suggested.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/barnz008/IMG_0172.png
Something is not adding up. Netdania to blame until otherwise verified from the hardcore data. And yea, I know how you silverbugs love your "RAID's" but you don't have to act like snot nosed juveniles when someone questions a claim made against the "cartel." If anything, we should be welcoming the volatility and price suppression cause that spells a heavier stack for less fiat.
Silverone,
You don't need to appreciate my thoughts my ostrich friend. You want to believe what is good for you based on lies without thinking then so be it. I don't really care what you believe and who you listen to. ITs your lively hood and your destiny. I just feel sorry for people who just swallow whatever they are told without doing their own DD.
Dr Durden,
Thanks for posting this information. Maybe the doc can take a look at it and make an opinion. Im sure others would love to hear what he has to say. While at it, maybe a new additional title to this one, if it happens to be that netdania was a glitch.
cheers,
New website will be live in approximately 2 weeks. Hopefully it lives up to the hype. I'll work my hardest to get the page loading speed up to par. This volume of website is not meant to run on blogger.
Ooops, here's the 1 min chart to correspond with my previous post. I accidentally posted the 3 min chart twice...
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l173/barnz008/IMG_0171.png
So IluvPMS wants to assume it was a glitch until JP comes out, raises their hand, and say that was me?? Listen to the people who use netdania who say that it is more sensitive than most trading platforms. You'd be the first one to fall for the fat finger excuse as the reason behind the volume spikes as well.
Anon at 3:17: several people have posted pictures showing you that there was no massive volume or raid.. yet you still seem to be stuck on your own biases... give it up.
Ther are two major problems at this site right now
1) the Doc put up unsubstatiated information and even Brother John bought it HL&sinker. (At least perhaps it saved some sheep who cannot think for themselves the pain of loosing their phisical position).
2) this site runs really fricken slow. WTF
Jesus,feels like that whack job kid dynamite is here
No matter what the truth is,this situation is worth investigating.
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Doc -
Whatever happened with this chart business, I'm still with yah. This site has been a great help as well as your personal intervention.
It's going to get rougher the higher your success goes.
As far as the folks that brought up the "raid" in question, yeah great glad you brought it up. Seems like you might be badgering sum is all.
Anyway, I can't wait to get my bars ordered on 2/17. Stay frosty!
1/ For sure an IGGY button would be great to IGGY me or anyone else that needs it.
2/ Yes if it is a glitch, OK, that does NOT invalidate the triple bottom so far at 26.15.
3/ It does not invalidate the strong turn-up of the PPO.
4/ This in no way invalidates the huge upturn in ACCUMULATION of silver on an EOD Comex basis chart
5/ It may suggest that we have a data issue, perhaps, but in fact, is not bearish for silver.
6/ In serious reality, one must stand in awe of the power of Silver's accumulation curve to better that correction in price by half, in less than 3 mo's, exceeding the old peak in Accumulation.
7/ Nothing about this, makes silver any weaker
on the contrary, view this ->, even if my data is prematurely published off the DOC, the chart is still valid.
http://denaliguidesummit.blogspot.com/2012/02/scary-strong-silver-accumulation-curve.html
Hey Doc,
Here is a response from Gene A from gotgoldreport.com
""News to me, "e". A 2,000 contract trade or a group of trades in that quantity in after hours would be conspicuous, wouldn't it? Try looking here for March http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?graphdata=&sym=SIH12&style=interactive&p=I&d=L&im=15&sd=&size=M&t=CANDLE&submitted=1&fpage=&txtDate=
or here for May: http://www.barchart.com/chart.php?graphdata=&sym=SIK12&style=interactive&p=I&d=L&im=15&sd=&size=M&t=BAR&submitted=1&fpage=&txtDate=
May have to enable Java and run the interactive program... It's been a while since I have used these charts.
Where you getting this "intel?"
GA""
Anyways, maybe some of you people can look at the bar charts and run your own daily minute analysis and notice that nothing pops up.
Hey Doc, you gonna chime in and provide us with an updated opinion?
Isn't that 1/7th of total annual global production dumped in seven minutes? So much for position limits. The swine have been pulling this crap for decades - how much longer can they get away with it? And if silver spot gets close to JPM's share price next week I'll bet heads will roll at the nymex silver desk.
Yeah Jamie Diamond, just like the Doc said....I hope you get a major MARSUPIAL INFARTION!
take a hike ILUV. I couldnt care less if you WERE right at this point- you're an obnoxious, arrogant prick who acts like a 6 year old school boy. How the doc allows you the privileged of posting on his site rather than immediately deleting your arrogant BS is beyond me, but you expect him to respond and defend himself to your attacks like he has nothing else to do in his life. The charts above speak for themselves. The doc's explanation makes perfect sense based on those charts. If your fancy charts don't show the volume netdania indicates, maybe you should take that up with netdania, or purchase your fancy platform for the doc rather than blasting his analysis of the info clearly displayed on those charts.
You're a joke ILUV. The only thing you love is your own ego.
somebody needs to work on those anger issues.
kmow how bad you want something to be true, somtimes it just ain't.
Dude, you are the epitomy of the word sheep.
can you say baaa baaaa baaa??
hey Doc, you can go get some more physical with all these hits!
good for you......!
Anon, you're an idiot.. i don't think ill waste my time with this bullshit nor with this site and its misinformation.
cheers,
BYE!
Never ceases to amaze me the amount of idocity the misinformed silverbug can display in such a short amount of time. You fools can't even slam Jamie "Diamond" correctly [it's Dimon].
Anyway, just looked at the charts ILUV linked to. No volume spike later in the day which is exactly what I proved earlier and also what everyone across the blogosphere has found as well through double checking data not from Netdania. Shocking!
You'd think there's enough evidence to the contrary at this point, but then again I'm probably an MSM shill hired by "Diamond" to supress the truth about the "RAID!" The only "RAID" here is on the feeble minds of the unsuspecting fools that don't have the sense of responsibility to take control of their own brains.
I think Brother JonhF's analysis of what took place in those seven minutes is spot on and highly significant! It makes me wonder what a five second chart would look like as seven huge one minute spikes down, each with the next spike down starting off well above the previous bottom suggests something quite extraordinary indeed! Some one with VERY deep pockets HAD to have been standing by and waiting, "ready to fire". If I'm not mistaken, I'd say there is a 95% or better chance that a new and hopefully permanent floor has just been established here. At least as measured against the ever shrinking yard-stick of the US$.
Remember folks, ILUVPMS is working with banks (cartel). His mission is to discredit everything possible.
Could this just be THE SIGNAL to other banks for a more sustained raid next week????
For exactly the reason that it doesn't show up on most people's charts because of their hourly or daily view as mentioned in the comments here....
I'm cautious that such a seemingly determined sell was so quickly scooped up.... why would you bother otherwise if the desired effect was to beat price down?
Thoughts?
Dr Durdung - It's "tongue in cheek" - Humor? (Diamond)
This site has it's regulars, me being one of them. I like a few are just newbies, but very serious about silver. If you also noticed, there are those on this site, that have been around in the PMs for a long time. It's a mixed crowd. I found this site eight or so months ago. I've only been at it for three years. It doesn't make me stupid, a sheep or anything else. It makes me "new", at this anyway.
This is a great site and I appreciate it. If you don't that's OK. If you got some good info to put out, put it out. If not.....what's the point?
You said your peace, now let's move on. OK?
Keep stackin Bro!
New b
This is very interesting. The PM blog community, seems to be at ends and in disagreement with this.
I think the Netdania charts are accurat for the following reasons:
1) the Cartel, allowed algos allowed 2%,1%, 1% flat
2) The had put on 20K short contracts
3) Futures option expiry
4) Possibly over 5k contracts standing for delivery
6) I still believe that there are derivatives associated with 35.00 silver and JPM,left over from Bear Sterns
As an aside the Cartel has distributed the shorts among the 5 major banks. Did they coordinate the short contracts, or was it one bank!
As for the neah sayers, go read Kid Dickamite blog!
Occams razor, the simplest explanation will be the most plausible until evidence is presented to prove it false.
Sorry Doc, I GOT to do this.
http://traderdannorcini.blogspot.com/2012/02/strong-weekly-close-in-gold.html
Look it over, saw this a few days ago. Went up $40...was 2100.
If it weren't for my engine job (2400), I would jump on it.
http://www.amergold.com/vault/Power_Pair_2_Lite.php
I realize the MS rating is low and they are comman date...but it's "certified" and .96oz
If you decide to go with it or not....I'm
NEW B
The only problem with AGE is they deal with JPM Chase...
Good luck....and Good hunting.
New B
Wow, The naysayers are coming out of the woodwork. Most I have never heard of.
Great work Doc even if it was a glitch. Sure teaches me a lesson on who to trust.
Ordinary Joe
ILUVPMS said: "i don't think ill waste my time with this bullshit nor with this site and its misinformation"
Kick ass.
LPP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=7fqCS7Y_kME
is they? or ain't they?
Ahh...the kids have gone to bed. I sat up many a night with news. I would go to the Silver Doc site...he was sitting up too.
Bloodshot eyes...and waiting. Posting too!
So what!? David Morgan ate some crow about the chineese thing....please.
I neither admit nor denie...Doc got a chart wrong. I put myself out there too. My NAME IS SPARTITUS!
Get some sleep Doc, we will get with you in the a.m.
new b
Crazy...you up?
AUGXIIK? You up?
Guess I got the first watch...
NEW B
AGX is on his 3rd glass of cabernet, and icing his swollen knee from his week of hand to hand combat training right about now NewB. LOL.
I've been working on stuff for tomorrow and for the new site roll-out/ SD Bullion launch.
I posted a 10 page interview from Eric Sprott tonight, not enough to keep you occupied tonight?
maybe it was a data retrieval issue. i have netdania 1min charts on gold/silver/oil on my monitors 24/7 and i see all kinds of wierd shit occur. i see wild ass fractal patterns, price movements that totally look like an algo is holding the price in a 10cent band for 15 mins. but if often wondered if its just the way netdania retrieves the data.
although i have never seen the above chart action occur. and i watch it like a hawk :-/ i even have charts in my bedroom in case i wake up i can quickly see prices on the market and go back to sleep...
- runlevel
- runlevel
Occupied?....I'm way over that. I am sure you see my IP. If I got something to say, I say it.
I round robin sites...I read them all. I won't always have the time...but I do now, that's all that counts.
I could write a book just about "learnin". Humble thy self.
I take it, you are working the ER. I know something about that through my sister.
Myself, Xmilitary, mortgage banker, consumer finance....construction. Thought it would be honest. WRONG! At least now, I don't have a $250 dry cleaning bill each week.
Now, I have a TWIC, Passport....you get the idea.
I thought I would have to send you a $100 fiat...but you already know I don't do business like that....LOL
The New B
You asked me for my email...well...here yah go.
llmorse76@gmail.com
How's that!
Guess I ain't Skiert.
The "New B"
So I will bore you with my tale.
Aboard the USS HORNE (CG30) in the Persian Gulf...Awe never mind...it's history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCkf3ogkFxo
I cried horseturd tears...the boat I defended.
I would have rowed out on a raft to try to save her.
Maybe you can understand, that command; taught me more then anyone can. The modern day "tin can".
The Navy put her down in the most Honorable way. She was a warship...and served well. No scrap..She is/was a warship. Now she will serve as a protector beneath the deep.
Coffee still on Doc?
NEW B
The airlines lost my blues. I got stuck with fantail watch 1200-0400. Every week until I could produce my dress blues. 12 weeks, I stood that watch. Singing every Johnny Cash and Tom T Hall tune I knew. I even checked for bubbles..(1979) before anyone thought about it.
This ain't nothing new...
Something about the 12 General Orders. I took it serious.
You just don't get that kind of training in business school.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWRvrhFPtR8&feature=related
Crossed the "Line" Twice.
Navy Expenditionary Medal. That's so The President can send you "in" without giving you combat pay...so he doesn't have to tell Congress.
Spent some time with KBR...Yah forgive me.
Don't make me tell you that I was recommended Washington D.C./Joint Chief of Staff Europe...cause I didn't "excempt it". I couldn't...
Ok...0231. What would you like to know?
What about you Doc?
Forgot to mention. I was 827 Triple Threat in Boot camp...Drill Team. Here's a sample.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRZg8vYM4no&feature=related
Big deal right? Guess you figured...I am not quite the New B you thought. Any questions?
Stand down then, I will be in the area all day.
Hand Salute...
Thanks Doc.
Your Friend and Brother At Arms,
"The New B"
Lowell L Morse
Anyone like to step forward and properly identify themselves?
I got approximately 1 hour and 15 minutes left in this watch.
Any questions?
Very Well Then. You will be promptly addressed by AGXIIK in the morning. Or perhaps Crazy Canuk. At which time I will turn this watch over. Any questions.
Good then.
0303 - check in.
03:19 Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGBpTDQmGS0
0327 check
0341 Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tA7E7pbUws&feature=related
0337: Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PejFLQ1ZxNA
0352 Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB7iz1HTh9U&feature=related
0432 check
Relieve the watch....
open the mess decks....
This has got to be the most idiotic blog I've read! The original post is proven to be wrong and yet the sheeple don't get it nor does the poster update when proven wrong... Wow... I will not be back here, that's for sure!
You people are up in arms whether volume occurred or not. Volume is completely irrelevant when it comes to a Netdania price.
Netdania displays spot prices. NOT FUTURES PRICES.
RAIDS OCCUR IN FUTURES!
Doc's claim is that since Netdania feed showed volume on the 1 min charts a raid was in progress. WHAT VOLUME? SILVER SPOT PRICES VOLUME? Definitely not Futures volume because Netdania does not display futures prices/volume and futures traders show this did not happen. DO TELL WHERE THE SPOT PRICE CONTRACT AND VOLUME you are talking about trades!
Fact is it doesn't.
Not disputing what you saw on Netdania. Sure it was there but it certainly does not mean a raid took place and was met with buyers... lol "A Massive buyer of spot silver"
Wow.. Can't believe all the buffoons on this site trying to claim this actually took place/ defending the Doc. This has been proven false information and the writer should provide an update if he truly wants to benefit his readership!!!
Anon 7:04 says:
"Wow.. Can't believe all the buffoons on this site trying to claim this actually took place/ defending the Doc. This has been proven false information and the writer should provide an update if he truly wants to benefit his readership!!!"
My sentiments exactly. They're still sheep but only following a different shepherd.
Nice work on the overnight watch NewB!
To the flame-throwing anons:
This post hasn't been proven wrong yet in my eyes, and frankly I've yet to be given a better explanation than to what occurred. I haven't updated the post because frankly if this wasn't a failed raid, I'm not sure what it was.
Practically the entire PM blogosphere is in a raging debate over what it means and if it in fact happened. Personally, the opinion that this is just a data glitch seems highly unlikely to me. That's not a fat finger or data input error when the volume perfectly coincides with the irregular candlesticks. Do you have a better explanation of what in fact happened? If it didn't happen, what did? We're open to changing our opinions and learning here, but personally attacking me and the readers does not benefit anyone, or encourage anyone to reconsider their thoughts on the matter.
Secondly, people need to have a glass of wine or take a chill pill. This should not be an issue that divides the PM community. The end game of the PM manipulation is coming one day whether this alleged failed manipulation event occurred or not. If you disagree, kindly educate us and provide an alternate explanation of what did happen, or just leave well enough alone and go read Eric Sprott post's comments on the fundamentals in silver, or Zerohedge's latest news on the Greek bailout.
But, Doc, some commenters above have given alternate sources that do not back up the "raid" yet they are blasted by your sheep, and you don't say anything.
You don't need to be given an explanation to prove your original post wrong. Your hypothesis is completely wrong to begin with!
Your claim is that a raid occured because you saw it in spot silver volume/price as shown on Netdania. Yet you should now know that pricing is set in the futures market and that Netdania does not show futures volume nor price. Your whole theory is that someone unloaded a mass of "spot silver contracts" and another entity bought a mass of "spot silver contracts". Things that don't actually exist.
Irrespective of not understanding Netdania's charts or getting a better explanation for what you saw, your post is still wrong and misleading as it is wrong from the get go.
Sure the blogosphere is full of comments. The vast majority of blog posters have no experience whatsoever in the futures market and thus one can only expect those who don't know any better to side with the thesis in your post until proven wrong... Anyone with experience in the PM's is on the other side of the fence stating this did not occur.
That is the problem in a nutshell - you are misleading people even if it is accidental. Man up and admit the error or your credit is gone.
We all know the PM market is going higher but no need to lead lambs to the slaughter.
New B said...
"Ahh...the kids have gone to bed. I sat up many a night with news. I would go to the Silver Doc site...he was sitting up too."
- - - - - -
Spent part of my Saturday evening going through a stack of Morgans, counting and sorting through the various dates & mint marks. Turns out I've got a number of the low-mintage silver dollars.
I'll just leave the chart-watching to the others here...
I see ILUVPMS never left as promised, just started posting as anonymous. LOL.
The Doc man'd up over his innacurrate prediction for the price of silver at the end of 2011, so your statement that he loses credibility if he doesn't man up and agree with you is hogwash. He's provided his thoughts, and if you disagree, be glad he allows your thoughts on his site. You act like he's deleting any objections. ILUV continues to attack the readers and the doc, proving that he is a troll rather than attempting to help us all learn from one another. As the doc said, move along, more important things to focus attn on. We're all still in agreement on the phyzz.
Hay I feel everybody should go buy some silver.I know it comm's my nerves and we do it no matter what a chart reads,or who tells us what they see on the chart. Nothing is ritten in granit! We all know the value of phizzz no matter what the stock market dose. We all pay attention to everything in the news, gas & food prices, stock's anything that may or may not change the price of silver.
If anyone had the Golden Key to see into the future, Wow would we need silver?
The fact is nobody knows for sure about anything. Just take in as much info you can get discard the bad and keep the good. My faith in everything that I SEE going on has prompted me to invest in Physical. Everything can be made to look true & everything can be made to look false.
But my gut is all I can go by in the end...
@ Anon 11:11
Don't agree with you. Several people have provided very well presented rational why the original post is incorrect in order to help those who aren't as well informed...
Instead of calling them "Trolls" or flag them for attacking others- why not try discredit what they are saying?.
I haven't seen anyone state they are wrong and provide even one reason why.
Just sayin'
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