Alf's latest thoughts are an absolute MUST READ!!
There is a strong probability that the correction in the price of gold has been completed. This article has four separate sections. They are:
1. The Elliott Wave (EW) justification for thinking that the correction in gold is over.
2. Why corrections happen in gold from a fundamental viewpoint.
3. The extent to which manipulation affects the gold price.
4. A possible “black swan” event that could trigger a gold price surge.To achieve the EW target of $4,500 on the next upward move will require something to trigger substantial new buying of gold. What could that event be? By definition, it will be a surprise to all market participants, a “black swan” event. That doesn’t prevent us from making a guess.
One likely area from which problems could emerge with very large numbers are derivatives. The Bank for International Settlements produces a list of outstanding derivatives twice a year. The latest report can be found at: http://www.bis.org/statistics/otcder/dt1920a.pdf. This reveals that the total notional value increased from $601 trillion (with a “t”) at December 2010 to $707 trillion at June 2011. Nearly all of the increase was accounted for by interest rate contracts which now have a notional value of $553 trillion, some 78% of the total.
As we discovered in 2008, derivatives are benign until losses occur. Once losses emerged from credit default obligations, it was game on for the GFC. Interest rate derivatives protect banks from interest rate rises. Most banks borrow short but have large loan books at fixed rates for long periods. Thus a big rise in interest rates could trigger claims on these derivatives.For the time being, rates seem to be locked at virtually zero in the USA, but this is not the case in Europe. Europeans are learning the lesson that rates rise when investors become concerned that the borrower can’t repay the amount borrowed, let alone the interest on the capital. When we drill down further into the BIS statistics at http://www.bis.org/statistics/otcder/dt21a21.pdf we discover that $219 trillion of the interest rate derivatives are denominated in Euros, compared with $170 trillion denominated in US Dollars.
If just 10% of the interest rate derivatives in Euro’s produce losses, the world’s banking system would be looking down the barrel of a loss of $22 trillion. That is enough to bankrupt the entire world’s banking system, something that the politicians of the world could not tolerate. What would a bail out of $22 trillion do to financial markets? What would it do to the gold price?
If it is not interest rates, there are $64 trillion of foreign exchange derivatives and a “mere” $32 trillion of credit default swaps outstanding that could produce “black swan” surprises.Read more:
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Must read...
http://www.webcompact.net/index.php/news/4468-obama-dollar-just-an-illusion-
I recall that in the Spring of 2009, the BIS was reporting that the total value of derivatives had reached $1,200,000,000,000,000. That's: 1 QUADRILLION 200 Trillion. Since I know that one of the ways the banks have been able to stay afloat --other than free FED money-- was by selling MORE derivatives. In fact, I recently read (though frankly can't recall the source) that the total had reached $1.5 quadrillion. So I'm a bit puzzled by the current count, since the source here is the same from which I first acquired that particular stat, and since the discrepancy is huge. Any insight into this would be appreciated.
Oh. Nevermind. I just realized the answer to my own question: derivatives do simply expire when deadlines pass. Now I have to go sit in the corner with an asshat.
Obama: Dollar just an Illusion .
http://www.webcompact.net/index.php/news/4468-obama-dollar-just-an-illusion-
AC_Doctor
Didn't your mom ever tell you no question is dumb enough for the asshat? :-)
The other thing to keep in mind is that no one can calculate the exact number because some of these things are deeply hidden, off balance sheet and traded in dark pools and/or via direct one-to-one hidden transactions. The BIS and others get in the ballpark of the true numbers, however.
How much money in bets does JPM have into the price of silver being below $35 or whatever bullshit have the conjured up in derivitive to keep the price of gold and silver down?
AC_Doctor
There are about 15,000 short silver contracts and JPM has a large chunk of them. I heard 40% or so. That's 30,000,000 ounces at $9 loss per oz. Sounds like $270,000,000 in potential losses.
What is the sound of one hand smacking? (down the price of silver) Compare that to the sound of one hand stacking. No Sweeteer sound has never been heard. HaHa.
Doc, check my math on that please.
JPM also has about $15 billion in Euro debt that is going to need to be rolled over in 6 months plus $50 billion in insurance for Greek debt. Rumor has it that JPM took a $5 billion loss on Greek debt but forced the collapse of MF Global by arranging to have the debt repudiation called a 'haircut' instead of a default.
That way they did not have to make good on their insurance against Greek debt default. That could have cost them $50 billion.
Dimon screwed Corzine into the ground, stole the PMs and probably $1 billion plus of cash, bought a billion or so of the failed Greek debt from the books of MF Global at a larger discount-leveraged no doubt, and no doubt has recouped the $5 billion in loss at this time.\
No, you can't make this stuff up. It's just too good.
Not
Say there anon:
Seriously, the ONLY people deserving of the "asshat" are the pigs shredding the currency and impoverishing the citizens of this country. Anyone can make an honest mistake -- you have, I have, I'm sure everyone here on this forum has. TPTB are neither honest nor are they mistaken: they are INTENTIONALLY flushing us down the sewers
stand strong until freedom dawns,
SonOfSam
according to my wife I have have the permament asshat or red ass or something like that. One thing I've learned on this site, there are no dumb questions, just bad results. And we have seen the results of that in the politicians elected to office
I thought Alf was a small, sarcastic, furry alien. I liked him.
2:41: I, too, wear a permanent asshat in my family. If the world doesn't go to hell in a hand-basket right quick, my wife is going to institutionalize me fer sure. This is the risk one runs with people who are easily bored with the universe and think economics is a just bored-game for accountants...
"Just an illusion"
I wonder which country the author of this speculative fiction lives in?
Actually, just in case anyone is passing through who may be unfamiliar with the dynamics of this, I highly recommend a viewing of Zeitgeist Addendum.
For a quick course in reality, first go here: http://www.zeitgeistaddendum.com/
Then, after downloading, move the cursor to the 4 minute, 20 second mark to start and then watch just the next ten or fifteen minutes. That's all that's necessary. Addendum is a fairly long movie, but for our purposes, this is all one needs to see to begin to understand the full extent of the fraud that the modern monetary system truly represents. The social world of man has really has become a 3-D 'Matrix' movie.
I hear you Colin My wife is beginning to give me the turd eye on my prepping. One more internet order for dehydrated food and I'm going to be the next episode of "Hoarders'
ALF? I thought that was for Asshat Liberation Front?
Wow. Is that Obama: Dollar is just an Illusion article REAL?!!?
Is Obama going to advocate a 1:1 dollar/gold link?
Wow everyone take a look at this:
http://www.webcompact.net/index.php/news/4468-obama-dollar-just-an-illusion-
AGXIIK, as I hear it, the only way to open the turd eye is by staring intently for many years at the pyramid on the dollar bill. This is no doubt what your wife has been up to when you're not looking.
Long live the A. S. F.!
And no, 3:47, it' is NOT a real article. Note the lack of date, media source or by-line. Besides, here in the U.S., we say "thin air," not "fresh air."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Perfect That explains everything thanks Colin
Well, I guess that makes three of us headed for the institution. LOL (But I think my wife is getting me silver for my birthday). It's all an illusion unless you can hold it.
I think AGXIIK and a few others of you will have a permanent commentary spot on the DOC's. site one day. Think about it DOC. These guys have a lot of valuable information and opinion here. Your site is gathering the best of the best.
Picked up my 2 oz. today (Mexico style).
2 oz. per week
Mexico style? What's that? trading tacos for stacko's
Pancho Villa, I tink yur smater dan de cat. HaaHaaHaa. That is hilarious. I guy sold my 2 Mexican 1 oz. Libetards today for $20.00 each. I told him it was best to keep his silver but he really needed the money. I weighed them and tested the silver content. They were indeed pure. I always try to tell people not to sell unless they absolutely have to. Anyway, that's the least costly Taco's I've had in a while.
Stack while you can, tell everyone the story and be true to your morals.
2 oz. per week
P.S.
Please everyone. If someone really has to have the Fiat, by all means buy their PM's. Time will get rough for all of us. I've found there is a tremendous amount of great people on this site. If you can convince those people to keep their PM's, do so. One good turn deserves another. In the meantime, keep stackin'.
2 oz.
Anonymous @ 4:51, make that four of us heading for the institution. While my 'better half' is okay with us accumulating some PM's, when she says, "stop reading those blogs," I have to just roll my eyes. "They make you so negative," she tells me. Negativity or reality?
Anyway, when that windstorm knocked out the power for seven hours last week, thanks to this prepper we still had lights and a hot dinner that evening, and she was okay with that.
Not for anything....
But the Kitco charts up top are identical again for gold and silver.
The manipulation is so obvious...it's obvious.
MF Global May Not Be Able to Pay Clients Back: Trustee
http://www.cnbc.com/id/45973377
AC_Doctor
HaaHaa. Yeah Mammoth. One snowstorm last year and 4 days without power I was the man.
Oh well. she don't fuss too much about the silver. Says it's better than buying another Harley and such.
2 oz.
I am reluctant to say that I am probably candidate number five. Although she recognizes that I am the financialy smarter one, better informed and more interested, she more "plays along" and "follows along" then takes steps to insure her own future. For her life is the same as 10 years ago; work for money, save money, spend it on nice things. Meanwhile I am sitting on 1.000 ounces, some minestocks, stocked foodpantry, woodstove, vegetablegarden and my private waterwell. Chances are she needend worry her pretty little face on the future as long as I provide the neccecaties for that. I just hope that the van with the nice brothers bringing me a nice new jacket with long sleeves that strapp nicely to my back can be kept at bay long enough for her to see with her own eyes that the shit is going to hit the fan and there is nowhere to hide from it.
More B.S.
What is the point behind all these ridiculous predictions? Gold can't even get to $1670.00
Here we go again Gold Correction Over. What a crock! This nonsense is just becoming annoying now. How about gold might get to $1700.00 but it might fall to $1500.00 that is the range not this ridiculous prediction of $4500.00
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